dude dont listen to them. theyre too poppy. theyre considered punk and no its not punk its poser music. listen to sum nirvana, lamb of god, rancid, the misfits, paramore, papa roach, foo fightersm, red hot chili peppers, old school metallica, marilyn manson, cannibal corpse, damageplan, pantera, bullet for my valentine. trust me these bands are way better then those pop rock pop punk bands
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